華為新麒麟9020芯片將改變一切！
Huawei's NEW Kirin 9020 Chip Will CHANGE Everything!
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華為最新的麒麟9020芯片將以其前所未有的性能、效率和能力改變游戲規(guī)則。
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Get ready for a revolution in mobile technology! Huawei's latest Kirin 9020 chip is set to change the game with its unprecedented power, efficiency, and capabilities.
準備好迎接移動技術(shù)的革命吧！華為最新的麒麟9020芯片將以其前所未有的性能、效率和能力改變游戲規(guī)則。
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Keep innovating Huawei, and please ban export rare earth to US. Let's see who comes begging first.
華為繼續(xù)創(chuàng)新，請禁止向美國出口稀土。讓我們看看誰先乞求。
That's absolutely amazing, some people were saying that it is a midrange performance, but they refuse to accept the fact that the kirin 9020 is more powerful than the SD 8gen 1 which is a flagship released about 2 years ago,
Report stated that the antutu score of the 9020 is over 1.2 million, is this what you guys called a midrange performance..... Why can't you accept reality for once....
For your information huawei is here to stay and nothing on earth can stop it from progressing, check the so-called iPhone that you worshipped and compare it to this masterpiece, the only thing that I can accept is better on the iPhone is the processor.
The mate 70 pro can beat it in every other aspects hands down without sweating..
這絕對令人驚嘆，有些人說這是中端性能，但他們拒絕接受麒麟 9020 比大約 2 年前發(fā)布的旗艦 驍龍 8gen 1 更強大的事實。
報告稱9020的安兔兔跑分超過120萬，這就是你們所謂的中端性能嗎？為什么你們就不能接受現(xiàn)實一次呢……
供您參考，華為將繼續(xù)存在，世界上沒有什么可以阻止它進步，看看你們崇拜的所謂 iPhone，并將其與這款杰作進行比較，我唯一能接受的 iPhone 更好的是處理器。
Mate 70 Pro 可以在其他各個方面輕松擊敗它。
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Huawei's GAA Kirin 9020 nano-sheet patent breaks through the heating limitations of TSMC's N3, breaks through the pitch limitations of DUV lithography, and achieves mass production that Samsung cannot achieve. Kirin 9020 is the FIRST mass-produced GAA FET process chip.
華為的GAA麒麟 9020納米片專利突破了臺積電N3的加熱限制，突破了DUV光刻的間距限制，實現(xiàn)了三星無法實現(xiàn)的量產(chǎn)。麒麟9020是FIRST量產(chǎn)的GAA FET工藝芯片。
Huawei tryna make history
Apple tryna make money
華為設(shè)法創(chuàng)造歷史
蘋果蠅營狗茍賺錢
While the Kirin 9020 isn't as good as the flagship processors from Apple, Qualcomm, MediaTek and Samsung, at least it has beaten Google's flagship SOC Tensor G4. Moreover, Huawei's phones are more energy-efficient because it has developed its own harmony next OS, which is completely separate from Android, and can be deeply optimized in both hardware and software.
雖然麒麟 9020 不如蘋果、高通、聯(lián)發(fā)科和三星的旗艦處理器，但至少擊敗了谷歌的旗艦 SOC Tensor G4。此外，華為手機更節(jié)能，因為它開發(fā)了自己的 Harmony Next OS系統(tǒng)，它與 Android 完全獨立，可以在硬件和軟件上進行深度優(yōu)化。
How is the US planning to keep microprocessor prices down with the new counter measures. I think they are only surviving only because of the Ban. All of Asia is working together to curb future US sanctions. Good luck for the future America
美國打算如何利用新的反制措施來壓低微處理器的價格。我認為他們只是因為禁令才得以生存。整個亞洲都在共同努力遏制未來的美國制裁。祝美國未來好運
UnkeptSpoon5
Cool? A million different things crammed into a chip isn’t really that meaningful unless it does them well. Using multiple chips isn’t something that’s really a problem.
很酷嗎？把一百萬種不同的功能塞進一個芯片里其實沒什么意義，除非它能很好地完成這些功能。使用多個芯片并不是什么問題。
Actually it IS something big,imaging cramming your pc unit into the size of your phone
事實上這是一件大事，想象一下把你的電腦塞進手機里
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What do you think smartphones are?
你認為智能手機是什么？
ACRM117
Is It 7nm still? I'm genuinely curious if Huawei/China has found a way to circumnavigate the US sanctions or if China has developed it's own chip manufacturing to the point of being competitive with TSMC.
還是 7nm 嗎？我真的很好奇華為/中國是否找到了繞過美國制裁的方法，或者中國是否已經(jīng)發(fā)展了自己的芯片制造技術(shù)，可以與臺積電競爭。
Considering 90% of all patents TSMC uses are from China
考慮到臺積電使用的90%的專利都來自中國
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Then what's hurting China's chips production? The hardware/machinery to produce them?
那么，是什么阻礙了中國的芯片生產(chǎn)？生產(chǎn)芯片的硬件/機器呢？
It's only an illusion, the chip war is strengthening china into becoming the new superpower reliant on only itself.
這只是一種假象，芯片戰(zhàn)爭正在使中國成為僅依靠自己的新超級大國。
Final-Rush759
5nm GAA. About 3-4nm of TSMC. Less leakage of electricity.
5nm GAA。大約是臺積電的3-4nm。漏電更少。
Could you elaborate a little more? I want to understand a little bit more about that lithography Huawei is using/gonna use.
你能詳細說明一下嗎？我想進一步了解一下華為正在使用/將要使用的光刻技術(shù)。
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GAA is a stacking technique.
GAA是一種堆疊技術(shù)。
Less-Department-542
That's the only thing stopping me from buying the mate 70 pro+...
這是阻止我購買 mate 70 pro+ 的唯一原因
Man, the Mate series has been my dream phone since Mate 11 and I had never owned one.
伙計，自從 Mate 10 以來，Mate 系列一直是我夢寐以求的手機，但我從未擁有過一部。
Kinocci
Talking SoCs, it's never about the quantity of chips you can fit in, rather the quality of them.
Intel is doing the same right now with their flagship chips and they are deemed an utter failure. Mediatek also has very complete SoC but all the individual chips are underwhelming compared to the competition.
說到 SoC系統(tǒng)級芯片，重要的不是芯片數(shù)量，而是芯片的質(zhì)量。
英特爾現(xiàn)在也在其旗艦芯片上做著同樣的事情，被認為是徹底的失敗。聯(lián)發(fā)科也有非常完整的 SoC，但與競爭對手相比，所有單個芯片都令人失望。
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Genuinely so ahead of the curve
真的很超前
Kirin was ahead of the curve years ago, then sanctions blocked it. Now it seems to be on track again.
麒麟芯片幾年前曾走在時代前沿，后來因制裁而受阻?，F(xiàn)在它似乎又回到了正軌。
SlashRaven008
Literally the company that got banned from selling their phones in the US after leaving Apple in the dust. The p30 pro is the first and last phone I need to get - there is no planned obselescence in it. Fantastic company
毫不夸張地說，這家公司在將蘋果甩在身后后被禁止在美國銷售手機。p30 pro 是我需要買的第一部也是最后一部手機 ，沒有淘汰它的計劃。很棒的公司
TYLER_PERRY_II
didnt they push an upxe that ruined the cameras autofocus lol
他們不是發(fā)布了一個更新，毀掉了相機的自動對焦功能嗎？哈哈
That was fixed.
已經(jīng)解決了。
Please elaborate.
I've been using my P30 Pro since mid-2019. After updating to EMUI 12 in early-2022 (or was it was early-2021? Can't remember now), my camera doesn't focus properly. I've been searching regularly for a fix (I dive in to the rabbit hole once every 6 months or so), and have found nothing conclusive yet.
請詳細說明。
我從 2019 年中開始使用 P30 Pro。在 2022 年初（或者是 2021 年初？現(xiàn)在記不清了）更新到 EMUI 12 后，我的相機無法正確對焦。我一直在定期尋找解決方案（我大約每 6 個月深入研究一次），但尚未找到任何解決辦法。
vukpopovic
Cool cool... now, can it be faster and more power efficient than an almost 4 year old chipset? Yeeeeah... no...
太棒了……那么，它能比一款將近 4 年前的芯片組更快、更省電嗎？當(dāng)然不能……
Americanism blocked Kirin development for years.
美國主義多年來阻礙了麒麟芯片的發(fā)展。
still no google
bunch of babies lM
還是沒安裝谷歌
一群嬰兒，哈哈
I've got Google on my Huawei Pura 70 pro lol
我的華為 Pura 70 pro 上有谷歌，哈哈
Keen_Whopper
Reason for my HarmonyOS purchase was just so there is NO Google Spying.
我購買鴻蒙系統(tǒng)手機 的原因只是為了避免被谷歌監(jiān)視。
It's difficult to communicate that to the zombies here.
很難跟這里的僵尸溝通。
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I don't want Google bug on huawei phones.
我不希望華為手機出現(xiàn)谷歌漏洞。
bug? American surveillance system.
漏洞?美國的監(jiān)視系統(tǒng)。
Their self proclaimed "Harmony OS" is literally Android AOSP, while in their censored internet they call it "100% Chinese without any Android modules", next thing I know? Switch to English, and Android logo just magically appears in settings. So yes if android has bug, you are gonna have it anyways
他們自稱的“鴻蒙操作系統(tǒng)”實際上是安卓開源項目，而在他們受審查的互聯(lián)網(wǎng)上，他們稱其為“100% 中國制造，沒有任何安卓模塊”，接下來我知道什么？切換到英文，安卓標志就會神奇地出現(xiàn)在設(shè)置中。所以是的，如果安卓有 bug，你無論如何都會遇到
Harmonyos 5.0 is based on Openharmony, before that all harmonyos are based on AOSP.
Harmonyos 5.0基于Openharmony，在此之前所有的Harmonyos都是基于安卓開源項目。
Twilight_0524
LM where are their mass produced 7nm chips with THEIR OWN TECHNOLOGY instead of stealing from the rest of the world? By the way enjoying those spyware comes complementary with your HUAWEI
哈哈哈，他們用自己的技術(shù)批量生產(chǎn)的 7nm 芯片在哪里，而不是從世界其他地方竊取的？順便說一句，享受這些間諜軟件是與你的華為互補的
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when did the US pay China for using its inventions and innovations like paper, writing, the compass, printing, and gunpowder? Until the western thieves pay China for everything they stole without permission WITH interest, they can just stfu.
美國什么時候向中國支付過使用其發(fā)明和創(chuàng)新的費用，如紙張、文字、指南針、印刷術(shù)和火藥？除非西方小偷向中國支付他們未經(jīng)允許偷走的一切以及利息，否則他們就閉嘴吧。
lmfao i see what kind of people are in this sub, im glad you are having fun then.
哈哈哈，我知道這個子版塊里都是些什么樣的人，我很高興你們玩得很開心。
DarkISO
Dont really keep up with their stuff since i cant get them here but is it in all their phones? What about that tri fold one? Maybe i can ask my dad to grab one while hes over there.
由于我在這里買不到，所以沒怎么關(guān)注他們的東西，但他們的手機里都有嗎？那個三折的怎么樣？也許我可以讓我爸爸在那邊的時候拿一個。
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Trifold has kirin 9010 and 5g, if you looking for fold get x6 it has this chip and 5GA probably, currently fastest 5g phone.
三折疊機擁有麒麟 9010 和 5G，如果你正在尋找折疊機，就買X6，它就裝這個芯片和 5GA，可能是目前最快的 5G手機。
According to the current progress of Huawei we can build more high tech things in the future
根據(jù)華為目前的進展，我們將來可以打造更多高科技的東西
cryptoneedstodie
For those of you who are interested: The codename of the Mate 70 Pro+ is PLA-AL10 on Geekbench. You can search it in their browser menu.
SC: ~1500-1600 MC: ~5100-5200
對于那些感興趣的人：Mate 70 Pro+ 在 Geekbench 上的代號是 PLA-AL10。你可以在他們的瀏覽器菜單中搜索它。
Famous_Wolverine3203
Is this scores from GB5 or GB6?
這是GB5還是GB6的分數(shù)？
Is this a good improvement over previous gen Kirin?
與上一代麒麟芯片相比，這是否有很大的改進？
I heard main uplift is in the GPU, while CPU upxe is nothing too big.
我聽說主要的提升是在 GPU 上，而 CPU 更新并不算太大。
Are they using Mali or their own architecture?
他們使用的是 Mali 架構(gòu)，還是他們自己的架構(gòu)？
I don’t follow it enough to be able to answer that.
Quickly looking it up now. Apparently it use Maleoon 920 igpu from Hisilicon.
我對此了解不夠，無法回答。
現(xiàn)在正在快速查找。顯然它使用了海思的 Maleoon 920 igpu。
The previous Kirin 9010 in the Pura 70 Ultra had a score of roughly 1450/4700.
So a 10% improvement on both scores.
Pura 70 Ultra 中之前的麒麟9010 得分大約為 1450/4700。
因此兩個分數(shù)都提高了 10%。
Thank you.
I’m assuming this means its unlikely to be 5nm? Probably a 7nm refresh?
謝謝。
我猜這意味著不太可能是 5nm？可能是 7nm 更新？
cryptoneedstodie
Yeah, probably. Even the naming suggests this. Huawei, or SMIC to be more precise is struggling to put out actual 5nm chips using DUV machines only. But that was kinda expected tbh.
是的，很有可能。甚至連名字都暗示了這一點。華為，或者更準確地說是中芯國際，正在努力僅使用 DUV 機器推出真正的 5nm 芯片。但說實話，這有點意料之中。
Famous_Wolverine3203
I heard on the rumour mill that yields for their 7nm process were not great. It seems they might be lagging TSMC’s DUV N7 in the yield department.
Makes sense why 5nm if possible would be prohibitively expensive.
I have another question. Huawei’s using their own microarchitecture here right? Is the Geekbench score linear with clock speed improvements or is there evidence of IPC improvements?
我聽說有傳言稱他們的 7nm 工藝的良率并不高?？磥硭麄冊诹悸史矫婵赡苈浜笥谂_積電的 DUV N7。
這解釋了為什么 5nm 工藝如果可能的話會非常昂貴。
我還有一個問題。華為在這里使用他們自己的微架構(gòu)，對嗎？Geekbench 得分是否與時鐘速度改進成線性關(guān)系，還是有證據(jù)表明 IPC 有所改進？
They are maybe using multi-exposure technique for 7nm, which enable using DUV for smaller node. But at the same time it has very bad yield, and take more resources to produce.
他們可能在 7nm 上使用多重曝光技術(shù)，這樣就可以在更小的節(jié)點上使用 DUV。但同時良率很差，而且生產(chǎn)需要更多資源。
Famous_Wolverine3203
Yes But TSMC did the same for N7 if I’m right and their node is pretty successful and widespread.
是的，但如果我沒記錯的話，臺積電對 N7 也做了同樣的事情，而且他們的節(jié)點相當(dāng)成功且普及。
Yes But TSMC did the same for N7 if I’m right and their node is pretty successful and widespread.
是的，但如果我沒記錯的話，臺積電對 N7 也做了同樣的事情，而且他們的節(jié)點相當(dāng)成功且普及。
logosuwu
SMIC N+1 is very similar to N7 since they basically poached most of the TSMC RnD team to design it. N+2 is a more refined version, N+3 (5nm) is rumoured to be using quad patterning which has potentially extremely poor yields
中芯國際 N+1 與 N7 非常相似，因為他們基本上挖走了臺積電研發(fā)團隊的大部分成員來設(shè)計它。N+2 是一個更精致的版本，據(jù)傳 N+3 (5nm) 將使用四重圖案化，這可能會帶來極低的產(chǎn)量
logosuwu
The codename isn't doing any favours with their claims of being unassociated with the Chinese military lol.
For context, single core performance is slightly below the Tensor G4, but multicore is substantially above.
這個代號對他們聲稱與中國軍方無關(guān)的說法沒有任何幫助，哈哈。
就上下文而言，單核性能略低于 Tensor G4，但多核性能卻大大高于它。
cryptoneedstodie
It's surprisingly impressive, especially when compared to Google's flagship lineup. This is even more noteworthy given the fact that Huawei is heavily sanctioned and limited to using only DUV machines.
令人印象深刻，尤其是與谷歌的旗艦產(chǎn)品線相比?？紤]到華為受到嚴厲制裁并且只能使用 DUV 機器，這一點就更加值得注意了。
Google is just incompetent and makes you wonder if they got sanctioned by the US rather than Huawei.
谷歌太無能了，讓你懷疑他們是否受到了美國的制裁，而不是華為。
cryptoneedstodie
LM, true! It's honestly mind-blowing that, despite having virtually limitless resources and top-tier talent, they still manage to produce such subpar chipsets.
哈哈，真是的！盡管擁有幾乎無限的資源和頂級人才，他們?nèi)匀簧a(chǎn)出如此低劣的芯片組，這真是令人難以置信。
ThrowItAllAway1269
It's insane when a SMIC's 7nm++ node DUV is keeping up with Samsung's 4nm EUV node
中芯國際 7nm++ 節(jié)點 DUV 與三星 4nm EUV 節(jié)點同步，這太瘋狂了
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GaussToPractice
Out of context: It always bit to me that National security shit was bullshit. They didn't even ban the old released phones from google services.
斷章取義：對我來說，國家安全就是扯淡。他們甚至沒有禁止舊手機使用谷歌服務(wù)。
It’s less about spyware security, but more about job security of many high paying jobs which would be gone if US lose the leadership in tech
這與間諜軟件安全無關(guān)，而與許多高薪工作崗位的保障有關(guān)，如果美國失去科技領(lǐng)域的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)地位，這些工作崗位將會消失
kyralfie
It's highly likely to be an 8 core with 4 of those big cores supporting SMT hence identified as 12 core CPU.
它很有可能是 8 核 CPU，其中 4 個大核支持 SMT，因此被認定為 12 核 CPU。
djm07231
Huawei also makes Ascend AI chips so targeting them from a strategic standpoint doesn’t seem unfounded.
xiaomi is still able to access TSMC because they don’t have a shady connection to PLA and doesn’t do strategic industries, just mostly phones and other consumer products.
華為也生產(chǎn) Ascend AI 芯片，因此從戰(zhàn)略角度瞄準它們似乎并非毫無根據(jù)。
小米仍然能夠接觸到臺積電，因為他們與解放軍沒有秘密聯(lián)系，也不從事戰(zhàn)略性行業(yè)，主要只是手機和其他消費產(chǎn)品。
Heard the 9020 is better than Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1. And the 9100 chipset is rumored to be released soon Inside Mate 70 RS premium model. We shall see how that performs.
聽說 9020 比 Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 更好。有傳言稱 9100 芯片組即將在 Mate 70 RS 高級型號中發(fā)布。我們將看看它的表現(xiàn)如何。
TwelveSilverSwords
OP
What's funny is that it looks like the latest chip from Huawei (Kirin 9020) has a better CPU efficiency curve than the Tensor G4. Pretty impressive showing by Huawei/SMIC, and an embarrassment for Google, I guess?
有趣的是，華為最新芯片（麒麟 9020）的 CPU 效率曲線似乎比 Tensor G4 更好。我想，華為/中芯國際的表現(xiàn)相當(dāng)令人印象深刻，而谷歌則感到尷尬吧？
Working_Sundae
And Kirin achieved those scores with much lower clocks and relatively dated manufacturing methods, Google is a complete embarrassment
而麒麟以更低的時段頻率和相對過時的制造方法取得了這些成績，谷歌則完全丟臉了
Quatro_Leches
Google when it comes to making a shitty hardware product: "I got one more in me"
谷歌在制造劣質(zhì)硬件產(chǎn)品時表示：“我還能再做一個”
Gwennifer
Huawei's Kirin 9000 was also pretty good and arguably one of the reasons it got sanctioned besides the 5G stuff, it was becoming very clear that Huawei was going to outcompete just about any expensive IP from the West soon--on price if not outright performance.
華為的麒麟 9000 也相當(dāng)不錯，可以說這是它獲得批準的原因之一，除了 5G 之外，很明顯華為很快就會在競爭中勝過西方幾乎所有昂貴的 IP——即使不是絕對的性能，至少也是在價格上。
Huawei WAS outcompeting in the sense they had reached parity in performance/market share/profits in device, SoC, and infra.
We simply had no answer to them in the US.
APPL is competitive in device and SoC, but they don't do infra.
QCOM is competitive in SoC and infra, but they don't do device.
It was probably the first time that we had a foreign vertically integrated tech vendor matching or out competing our side of the equation. And coming from an economy which just bootstrapped a middle class fueled internal consumer demand (with more room to grow, as China still has a few hundred million people to still reach middle class status). So this is uncharted waters for us, thus the panic.
華為確實在競爭中勝出，因為他們在設(shè)備、SoC 和基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施方面的性能/市場份額/利潤已經(jīng)達到同等水平。
我們在美國根本無法應(yīng)對他們。
APPL 在設(shè)備和 SoC 方面具有競爭力，但他們不做基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施。
QCOM 在 SoC 和基礎(chǔ)設(shè)施方面具有競爭力，但他們不做設(shè)備。
這可能是我們第一次有一家外國垂直整合技術(shù)供應(yīng)商與我們匹敵甚至超越我們。而且我們來自一個剛剛啟動中產(chǎn)階級推動國內(nèi)消費需求的經(jīng)濟體（還有更大的增長空間，因為中國仍有幾億人尚未達到中產(chǎn)階級地位）。所以這對我們來說是未知領(lǐng)域，因此感到恐慌。
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RegularCircumstances
Lol the Kirin 9000 was not an indication that Huawei was going to outcompete Apple or Qualcomm, what are you smoking?
哈哈，麒麟 9000 并不表明華為將在競爭中勝過蘋果或高通，你在說什么？
Swaggerlilyjohnson
I just don't understand why they even bother. Why not just pay qualcomm like everyone else. I know the chips cost more but is it really that much more versus spending money on a whole team to design a garbage SOC that loses to a sanctioned competitor and qualcomms 3 year old designs.
If they are trying to keep costs low they should use mediatek or a one gen behind qualcomm chip like one plus does for their R series.
Just none of it makes sense to me they cut goddamn everything else they work on after a few years like they have company wide ADHD but they won't cut this obviously worse than useless chip design department.
It's holding back the pixels so much in competitiveness like who wouldn't pay 50$ more for an 8 elite over this. The battery life jump would be huge.
我只是不明白他們?yōu)槭裁催€要費心。為什么不像其他人一樣直接向高通付費。我知道芯片成本更高，但與花錢組建整個團隊設(shè)計垃圾 SOC（最終輸給受制裁的競爭對手和高通 3 年前的設(shè)計）相比，這真的貴很多嗎？
如果他們想降低成本，他們應(yīng)該使用聯(lián)發(fā)科或比高通落后一代的芯片，就像一加為他們的 R 系列所做的那樣。
對我來說，這一切都沒有意義，他們在幾年后削減了他們所做的所有其他工作，就像他們?nèi)径蓟加凶⒁饬θ毕荻鄤影Y一樣，但他們不會削減這個顯然比無用的芯片設(shè)計部門更糟糕的部門。
它極大地限制了像素的競爭力，誰會不愿意多花 50 美元購買 8 elite版呢？電池壽命的提升將是巨大的。
Because google was to sort of extract as much profit as they can from the android ecosystem that they created. Otherwise, a big chunk of the revenue goes to Samsung and QCOM.
因為谷歌要從他們創(chuàng)建的 Android 生態(tài)系統(tǒng)中獲取盡可能多的利潤。否則，很大一部分收入將流向三星和高通。
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Hashabasha
because they delude themselves into thinking they are like apple when in fact they are more like microsoft. they just dont seem to get it
因為他們自欺欺人地認為他們像蘋果，但事實上他們更像微軟。他們似乎不明白
8 elite alone regresses the 2025 phone back to 2021 Era due to the cost of the processor eating up major part of production cost.
“It's holding back the pixels so much in competitiveness like who wouldn't pay 50$ more for an 8 elite over this. The battery life jump would be huge.”
It's not 50$ extra S24 ultra despite having the same hardware are S24 ultra ( display, camera, battery , charging speed).
Is 110$ more expensive than S24 ultra to produce due to the 8 elite.
由于處理器成本占據(jù)了生產(chǎn)成本的很大一部分，8 elite 本身就將 2025 年的手機退回到了 2021 年的時代。
“它極大地限制了像素的競爭力，誰會不愿意多花 50 美元購買 8 elite 呢？電池壽命的提升將是巨大的?！?br /> 盡管硬件與 S24 ultra 相同（顯示屏、攝像頭、電池、充電速度），但 S24 ultra 的價格并不貴 50 美元。
由于配備了 8 elite，其生產(chǎn)成本比 S24 ultra 貴 110 美元。
“I just don’t understand why they even bother.”
Because there’s more to what’s in an SOC than just the CPU? It sounds like Google has decent IP besides the raw performance of their CPUs.
“我只是不明白他們?yōu)槭裁匆M心?！?br /> 因為 SOC 中除了 CPU 之外還有更多東西？聽起來谷歌除了 CPU 的原始性能之外還擁有不錯的知識產(chǎn)權(quán)。
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Swaggerlilyjohnson
I mean the cpu is bad, the gpu is bad, the modem is bad. The image processor is probably good but is it even better than Qualcomms? I don't actually know that's difficult to quantify as well how much is hardware vs software for their image processing.
Even the ai performance which is the literal purpose of the chip (It's literally called tensor) is behind Qualcomm I just don't see what is worth it even if maybe some small parts of it are competitive or useful.
我的意思是 CPU 不好，GPU 不好，調(diào)制解調(diào)器也不好。圖像處理器可能不錯，但它比高通的更好嗎？我實際上不知道這很難量化，以及他們的圖像處理中硬件和軟件的差距有多大。
即使作為該芯片的真正用途的人工智能性能（它實際上被稱為張量）也落后于高通，我只是看不出它有什么價值，即使它的某些小部分可能具有競爭力或有用。
Because what you think is "bad" is coming from a place of benchmark obsessed enthusiast. Which is a tiny portion of the market.
Tensors are now "good enough" for a chunk of the market. Pixel now having the highest market share they have ever had, sort of indicates that.
Pixel's now give Google almost a quarter of the device revenue from the Android market. So from Google's perspective, that is a success.
因為你認為的“糟糕”來自于一個癡迷于基準的狂熱者。他們只占市場的一小部分。
Tensor 現(xiàn)在對一部分市場來說“足夠好”。Pixel 現(xiàn)在擁有有史以來最高的市場份額，這在某種程度上表明了這一點。
Pixel 為谷歌帶來了近四分之一的 Android 設(shè)備收入。因此從谷歌的角度來看，這是一個成功。